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October 13, 2010


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Great story with a good point.


Thanks for this.


Of course, as the mother of a wild-child, my heart goes out to this young man's family. He might have a family or none. He does have a HP. A prayer whispered for him.


Jeri  Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ

There but for the Grace of God, go I.

Casablanca Re-written:

Of all the AA joints, in all the towns, in all the world, he walks into mine.

Nothing happens in God world by mistake. There was reason for him to be there.

Jayne Dough

Exactly! Thank you.


I was chairing my new home group for the first time a few weeks ago, and a young'un came in, maybe 16 or 17. He really rambled, on and on, but I figured it was probably his first meeting so I sat back and listened. He wasn't violent, or doing anything extreme. He was even fairly coherent. Another member of the group interrupted him and told him he needed to give everyone else a chance to share (meaning himself I guess). We had a big kerfuffle at the end of the meeting, and the other group members felt that he should have been left alone. Unfortunately, I haven't seen the kid again. :(


Beautiful story and a great reminder for those moments when the judgement come in my head.


12 step programs don't require a submission to an ideology? Really? hmmmm

Mr. SponsorPants

No, they don't require a submission to an ideology. The literature is clear, the 12 Steps are 12 SUGGESTED Steps. In addition, I have personally seen any number of times people share in a meeting that they think AA is bullshit and they don't agree with much of what it says, and people just clap for them the same as any other, no one asks them to leave, and they are welcome to come back to the meeting. AA certainly has a viewpoint, and it offers evidence to support it, but there is no pledge you must make, no form you must sign, no fee you must pay, no person you must get the approval of, to be at an Open AA meeting, or to share, or whatever. AA does not tell people not to seek outside help for any issue, does not suggest people refrain from seeking information from organized religion ... AA even suggests that if you can drink and not have problems that "our hats are off to you." That is hardly the ingredients which make any requirement of an individual to agree with any damn thing AA says. Having a viewpoint and offering it to people who may want or need it is not the same as requiring people to believe what you say. Suggesting people try it to see for themselves is not the same as telling someone they must try it ... or that they *must* do anything.

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