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Anne

Hi Mr. SponsorPants.

raemelyn

My first Alanon home group use to suggest to newcomers to use the dictionary on each step and look up each word. This was a wonderful way for the newcomer's brain to s-l-o-w down and digest the steps. Thanks for using that in your blog today. It helps me to put into words what I believe.

Namaste

Syd

I can see why people might think that it's cultlike. The chanting is something that I don't like. But other than that, I appreciate the format of meetings and all other aspects.

Dan

To claim AA is not a doctrinaire cult by comparing it to criteria developed to identify the extremes of dangerous cults does not change AA's basic character as a cult. Of course AA is a cult. It has canonical texts, a core of priest-like adepts, prayers, rituals, rites, and an unambiguous hierarchy based on putative length of sobriety. In my 15 years in AA, I never saw a group that didn't have a cadre of self-appointed temporary sponsors who pounced on newcomers, and whom I'd say comprised some of the most unstable individuals in the group. To do a 4th and 5th Step with such people is a dangerous mistake.

Anonymous

Whatever happened to the Traditions, Mr. Sponsorpants? Eleven protects us all, and Twelve states that anonymity is the, "spiritual foundation." Those words are not chosen lightly. This entire site turns my stomach and gives me the hee-bee-geebies. Thank Heaven this fellowship is self-correcting, but I have to shake my head at this entire endeavour of YOURS, MR. SPONSORPANTS. People might start to think you speak for the Program. uh.... Please, pray on it, and consider taking it down, and keep it in the rooms. "What you hear here and whom you see here, let it stay here when you leave here!!!" I sincerely feel this site violates the spirit of our sacred fellowship.

Samantha

The sponsorship group has helped more alcoholics get sober than any other ten groups combined. The bad rap these guys have gotten is from relapsers that took advantage of people willing to lay down their lives and give freely of their time and money. Chronic Relapsers destroy the spirit of AA. Whenever you hear gossip look at the motives of those who spread it. It's most often because they are hiding something.

No friend of Bill W

After years of being told I was too intelligent for AA and I should "dumb down", after being told I was hopelessly powerless over alcohol,that I must believe in a higher power be it god or a lightbulb, I finally escaped the AA cult and am busy deprogramming myself ( along with my therapist) to make real rational changes in my life. I feel pity for friends I left behind In AA and hope they can finally see through the AA dogma.

Richard

AA is a cult. I'd give my reasons, but Clancy Martin wrote it so much better in a Harpers Magazine January 2011 piece "The Drunks Club,
AA - The cult that cures"

http://hivdatf.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/harpersmagazine-2011-01-0083250.pdf

I am an AA member, it is a cult, but a good one, at least most groups are.

xT!nA

It is interesting - because before I was in AA, I was yet again crashing to a bottom. I was mandated to rehabilitation and almost immediately diagnosed bi-polar with anxiety disorder. The medical answer to this was medication....the fun kind. I refused the treatment because I knew that I had no control over myself whatsoever, ever, in the history of forever......not to mention I had been trying to "just quit"..."mind over matter".....therapy.....for over 10 years. Once I even hung the clothes up on the wall that the Hospital cut off my body after wrecking into a Mac truck on a bridge during a DWI... I swear to you 48 hours later I was drinking vanilla extract.....because I refused to buy alcohol in the effort not to drink *again*. There was no alcohol in my system to make me do this. I came to the conclusion I was retarded....and when it came to alcohol, yes, I was quite retarded. The longest I was able to quit on my own was 8 months, after having a brain stroke, getting arrested and losing a relationship within a month. YET somehow, my other personality (the degenerate maniac) took over and I believed whole heartedly that I could drink normally. Needless to say, I didn't.

I have read a lot of these AA attack sites, and most definitely entertained doing sobriety their way. But the thing that keeps me from doing so is the careful observation that these people have successfully employed methods that I have tried over and over and over with no success.

Therefore, if the only way to stay alive and happy is to join a cult.....Id rather be alive in a cult and happy than dying a slow death....prolly with no teeth.......smelling reeeal bad.....cuz showering was totally annoying.

I also want to mention that the basic text states clearly in the first step that if you can do an about face and stop drinking on your willpower, that you don't need the do the program at all. People might try reading the facts before employing a judgement based on personalities.

Thats enough outta me........
rock on......
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